With a two + coin bump and CAC I'd go with the PCGS. Did you crack and summit?
I didn't even bother with CAC after I bought it. I couldn't get it in the vice for a crack-out, faster than I did. Took it to PCGS at FUN, when they still had consistency. Then on to John.
It could be a 68 , but I don't want to regrade it and have to do the CAC thing all over again. Reconsideration on coins like this almost always fails, so it would have to be a regrade.
In its original holder, I don't care about the grade on the holder. I care about the coin first and the holder second, and if its in an ole NGC no line fatty then I am stoked, add a gold cac sticks and I am on cloud 9. 65,65+, 66, 66+, 67, 67+, 68 etc who gives a rats arse, the grade could change every minute (due to the subjectivity of grading) but the coin will be as great as you believe it to be......and when its entombed in an ngc no line fatty then its perfectly preserved permanently like King Tut. I love white on silver or gold or copper so much more than clear/ baby blue.
That’s a beautiful SLQ! @Wabbit For better or for worse, I really gravitated to your description of “ From the era when every great coin was a 65”.
I’m admittedly too young to have participated in that era. It is what it is.
However, I am honestly interested to know how you would describe, in the same eloquent terms, the era of today.
Thanks in advance.
Hi 3-Cent!
You will catch me around the internet saying that PCGS graded coins in the last 3 years are the new Rattlers. They have been TOUGH on grades. Go check out my Gold Rattler thread.
With new ownership, and the most recent president sent packing, after a short stint.... Who knows. But I will report back after I send in a grading order.
To continue the rant, maybe the new owners should hire Don and David back, to restore some consistency. (Like that would happen! :-)
In its original holder, I don't care about the grade on the holder. I care about the coin first and the holder second, and if its in an ole NGC no line fatty then I am stoked, add a gold cac sticks and I am on cloud 9. 65,65+, 66, 66+, 67, 67+, 68 etc who gives a rats arse, the grade could change every minute (due to the subjectivity of grading) but the coin will be as great as you believe it to be......and when its entombed in an ngc no line fatty then its perfectly preserved permanently like King Tut. I love white on silver or gold or copper so much more than clear/ baby blue.
Realone, thanks for this. I love the Fatty. I love the PCGS 2.5 grades higher with CAC also. When I pass this coin on to my 30 year old, she will sell it quickly, or keep it. Either way, it is ready to go. (Unless I sell it first!)
BTW I also have a fair number of old ngc no line fatties caged green & gold. I know the gold will upgrade 2-3 points, and the green possibly by 1. To me the thrill of the unknown, coupled with 30+ years out of the coin doctors hands along with the beauty of those classic holders trumps anything the other grading company does since I know how inconsistent they are. The consistency and the conservativeness of NGC during that time period pales all others imho. I will let the next caretaker have his/her wish, until that time you know where they are. And I understand if most disagree, I just don't give a rats arse how much more money I can squeeze out of them, the coin is what counts and the fact that they are in my possession ultimately wins imo.
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Did you crack and summit?
I didn't even bother with CAC after I bought it. I couldn't get it in the vice for a crack-out, faster than I did. Took it to PCGS at FUN, when they still had consistency. Then on to John.
It could be a 68 , but I don't want to regrade it and have to do the CAC thing all over again. Reconsideration on coins like this almost always fails, so it would have to be a regrade.
In answer to the question posed, I’d rather buy it in an MS65 “fatty” holder and own it in a PCGS 67+CAC holder.😉
You are Wise my friend!
From the era when every great coin was a 65.
65,65+, 66, 66+, 67, 67+, 68 etc who gives a rats arse, the grade could change every minute (due to the subjectivity of grading) but the coin will be as great as you believe it to be......and when its entombed in an ngc no line fatty then its perfectly preserved permanently like King Tut. I love white on silver or gold or copper so much more than clear/ baby blue.
Can you show a picture in the PCGS holder?
Yes, but it will be a cell phone pic. Lance @lkeigwin does all of my good pics, and he has not had this one yet.
Hi 3-Cent!
You will catch me around the internet saying that PCGS graded coins in the last 3 years are the new Rattlers. They have been TOUGH on grades. Go check out my Gold Rattler thread.
With new ownership, and the most recent president sent packing, after a short stint.... Who knows. But I will report back after I send in a grading order.
To continue the rant, maybe the new owners should hire Don and David back, to restore some consistency. (Like that would happen! :-)
And I understand if most disagree, I just don't give a rats arse how much more money I can squeeze out of them, the coin is what counts and the fact that they are in my possession ultimately wins imo.