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  • One other special situation for throwing in a lowball bid is if you see what appears to be a very nice coin in a badly scratched/scuffed holder. A banged up holder always seems to have a negative psychological impact, even on people who try to "buy…
  • I had an Express Mail package show up in the dreaded USPS body bag, empty of contents, apparently stolen from somewhere within the USPS system en-route. The dealer/shipper was on top of it and got it resolved through their insurance in a timely man…
  • It seems like a real stretch to think of non-Legacy CACG coins as being the best coins. The most conservatively graded, perhaps, but even that doesn't necessarily make them the best. Years of people crossing NGC-CAC to PCGS-CAC has put the majorit…
  • SharpStrike said: While I do enjoy the discussion of unicorn coins, I have a follow-up question about nice but over-graded coins. John Butler’s example of the 20 MS66 Saints submitted to CACG, of which 14 were deemed to be 64+ coins,      …
  • Up until very recently they were using a drop-down arrow to bring up the varieties. It made for a much cleaner and easier interface. Seems strange to abandon that.
  • While I do enjoy the discussion of unicorn coins, I have a follow-up question about nice but over-graded coins. John Butler’s example of the 20 MS66 coins submitted to CACG, of which 14 were deemed to be 64+ coins, along with other such examples, s…
  • @MarkFeld Believe me, I have no problem with you using a lot more words to make the point. As a collector/investor, I'm pretty good at digging things up and sorting through them, but I'm not always savvy to how things look on the business side …
  • I think the point was that since Legacy coins cross automatically (unless you're stipulating a + or higher grade), there wouldn't be any discount for them.
  • Actually, I was trying to make two different points. One: Disagreement on what is a details coin is a big problem. Two: There might be too many grade levels given the difficulty of agreeing on a grade. That's what I get for running two different poi…
  • I'm in the same boat. I only have one non-stickered coin left, which is what they appear to be targeting with this.
  • The stickered coins that were cracked out and submitted raw are certainly the ultimate test of how much CAC and CACG are on the same page. Hopefully, it's just a small sample aberration since that's not a very good result. The most glaring problem…
  • @MikePhillips Thank you for the reply. I misunderstood your point. I thought you were suggesting that these over-graded 65 and 66 coins should be avoided regardless, even if they could be had for 64+ money. I thought your earlier comment about …
  • I'll take a guess but first I'm removing a low end, unattractive 66 from your question because that is not going to be graded 64+. SharpStrike asked: "So then what differentiates that low-end unattractive "65" or "66" that CACG grades 64+ as a r…
  • So then what differentiates that low-end unattractive "65" or "66" that CACG grades 64+ as a result (that is apparently to be avoided), from another coin that CACG grades 64+ because it's a truly spectacular 64? To me that makes it sound like there…
  • Before this decays into yet another argument over the ABC approach, or whether CAC-Stickering and CAC-Grading are on the same page or not, I would point to a comment that @JohnButler made about this in another thread awhile back: https://forum.cacg…
  • Stevie said: I think a statement is being made here that they are stricter than CAC. I bet that if CAC PCGS stickered coins were cracked out and resubmitted raw the percentage attaining the same grade would be lower than you might imagine. ------…
  • Stevie said: Seems strange that 0 crossed as a 66 out of 20 coins and 0 graded 65+. From a major professional TPG service. How could so many coins be overgraded( 15 as 64+?) I think CACG is undergrading in trying to be the strictest. ---------- O…
  • @FlyingAl While I understand your frustration, I think the very existence of this thread and the willingness of John Butler to start it and participate in it is evidence that CAC is very much willing to consider questions and concerns about their …
  • I think we were chewing the cud, not milking it. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Thanks again @JohnButler for the clarification. This is a great thread.
  • Actually, the initial confusion for me was why a cud coin would go into either an "Error" holder or a "Details" holder. To me, it didn't seem to fit in either category since I thought of it as the same situation as a die crack or clashed dies (henc…
  • I understand it's a progression with dies wearing out and breaking down over time. I just wasn't sure why one would be treated as an error coin while the other isn't if they both occur due to die damage at some point during this progression. I'm n…
  • Whether the die was worn, used, broken, or damaged in some particular way isn't really what I was inquiring about, but that's fine. I don't object to cuds and die cracks being treated differently. I was just wondering why. Seemed like a simple qu…
  • @JohnButler I don't see the logic of calling die cracks error coins either (and in fact, I own a few), which is exactly why I was wondering about cuds being called error coins, since they are both the result of worn dies. I was just wondering wha…
  • @totallyoriginal, A truly quality description for a truly quality coin from one of the best in the biz.
  • Isn't a cud just another sign of a worn die state? And if so, how does that make it an "error" coin? Wouldn't coins with die cracks also have to be labelled "error" coins with that approach?
  • It's hard not to notice that the enthusiasm for crossing everything over to CACG that's not nailed down has deflated substantially from a year ago. I guess market realities and increasing costs to jump through such hoops will do that. Maybe it wil…
  • It should definitely be pinned I think, especially if it is going to be an ongoing feature.
  • That's one of the "benefits" (if you want to call if that) of the Legacy designation: it preserves proof of a second opinion. Although, with how many people disparage NGC-CAC compared to PCGS-CAC that may not mean much to those folks. In fact, if …
  • Given the limited space on a holder for descriptions that help collectors learn, would it be more practical for a TPG service to simply put "Details" on the holder, and then elaborate with a more detailed explanation on their website that could be a…
  • I've only submitted one coin so far, through an investor-dealer in the early stages before general submissions began. It was a non-CAC coin that I was sure would cross at a lower grade. It came back AU-Details. That scenario has apparently happen…